Dozens of players kneel, coaches link arms in solidarity as Trump asks NFL teams to ‘fire or suspend’ protesting players

So, now #hesnotmypresident has gotten involved in sports. He's decided that everyone who 'takes a knee' (bends down on one knee during the National Anthem  as a form of protest against this country's treatment of minorities) should be suspended or downright FIRED! This man has no sense of diplomacy, no tact, no common sense; even I, with no political experience  whatsoever can see that this is not the way the President of the most influential country on the planet should be behaving. He's swearing at people on a public social media platform; the fact that he takes to  Twitter at all to make his pronunciations   should be enough to make even the Neanderthals who voted for him queasy.     

    SOMERSET, N.J. — As President Trump called for NFL owners to suspend or fire players who protested the national anthem, players and coaches answered defiantly Sunday morning, with most members of the Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars either standing with their arms locked in solidarity or taking a knee on the field.        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
I have to interject here. IMO, the author of this Washington Post news article is misrepresenting what the players being discussed are doing. They are not protesting the National Anthem. To say that they are protesting a song is trivializing the whole movement and making them look like children having a temper tantrum. To my (and other's)  way of thinking, the players are not protesting the anthem, they are protesting during the anthem. (While on the subject of children having temper tantrums, what about what happened with  Golden State Warriors point guard Stephen Curry and his team? Since, during an interview, Stephen Curry didn't act enthusiastic about going to the White House, the president decided to punish the team by stating  "Going to the White House is considered a great honor for a championship team. Stephen Curry is hesitating, therefore invitation is withdrawn!"  in a tweet! How's that for childish temper tantrums?)

Ravens Coach John Harbaugh joined his players, locking arms, and Jaguars owner Shahid Khan, a Pakistani American billionaire and businessman, joined his players before the game's kickoff at 9:30 a.m. in London's Wembley Stadium. Ravens Hall of Famer Ray Lewis also took a knee during the anthem.

The dramatic show of defiance comes hours after Trump on Sunday morning renewed his demand that NFL owners fire or suspend players who kneel during the national anthem in protest, again urging that fans should boycott the sport to force change.

“If NFL fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our Flag & Country, you will see change take place fast,” Trump wrote. “Fire or suspend!”

“NFL attendance and ratings are WAY DOWN,” he continued in a second tweet. “Boring games yes, but many stay away because they love our country. League should back U.S.”

The tweets continue a three-day crusade by the president to pressure the league to fire players who have taken a knee to protest police violence against minorities. Trump has poured fuel on the flame of a simmering culture war and has further pushed sports deep into the political arena.

Among players, coaches and team owners, the public reaction has been sharply negative of his comments.

Even a close friend, Patriots CEO and Chairman Robert Kraft, who donated $1 million to Trump's inauguration, issued a sharply worded statement Sunday morning that condemned his comments and supported the right of players to peacefully protest “in a manner that they feel is most impactful.”

“I am deeply disappointed by the tone of the comments made by the President on Friday,” Kraft said. “I am proud to be associated with so many players who make such tremendous contributions in positively impacting our communities.

“Their efforts, both on and off the field, help bring people together and make our community stronger,” he added. “There is no greater unifier in this country than sports and, unfortunately, nothing more divisive than politics.

“I think our political leaders could learn a lot from the lessons of teamwork and the importance of working together toward a common goal,” Kraft continued. “Our players are intelligent, thoughtful and care deeply about our community and I support their right to peacefully affect social change and raise awareness in a manner that they feel is most impactful.”

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Article by  Abby Phillip and Cindy Boren

Washington Post - September 24, 2017

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"This is a new era. This is the Trump era."

     This statement was made by Jeff Sessions (no designation necessary, we all know who he is.) as part of a speech he made during a trip to Arizona and a meeting of Customs and Border Protection personnel. We've all already seen, in one way or another, examples of what this 'Trump era' means to this country, especially to certain minority peoples. Sessions made the statement, but believe me, no matter how Trump claims he feels about DACA and other such programs, the words we heard from Sessions (IMO) are Trump's.

Jeff Sessions to speak on Trump's plan for DACA

Attorney General Jeff Sessions is scheduled to hold a news briefing Tuesday morning on the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, known as DACA, the Justice Department said late Monday.

The announcement comes amid reports that President Donald Trump plans to end the 2012 program, which defers deportation for nearly 800,000 young people who entered the United States illegally as children.

The Justice Department said Sessions would “not be taking questions” after the Tuesday morning briefing with reporters. It did not provide any additional information.

Politico, citing sources familiar with Trump’s thinking, reported Sunday night that President Trump had decided to end the so-called Dreamers program with a six-month delay for Congress to act.

A decision to end the program would likely spark political controversy. Twenty state attorneys general said they would defend DACA “by all appropriate means,” in a public statement in July.

New York and Washington state on Monday promised to sue Trump if he rescinded the program, while nine Republican state attorneys generals said they planned to file suit on Tuesday if Trump did not end it.

President Trump’s public schedule for Tuesday made no mention of a DACA announcement, but he tweeted Monday night that there was a “Big week coming up!”

Sessions has been a vocal proponent of curbing both legal and illegal immigration.

“Legal immigration is the primary source of low-wage immigration into the United States,” Sessions wrote in a 2015 Washington Post op-ed . "What we need now is immigration moderation: slowing the pace of new arrivals so that wages can rise, welfare rolls can shrink and the forces of assimilation can knit us all more closely together.”

At the beginning of his tenure as U.S. Attorney General, Sessions promised to bring on a dramatic Justice Department crackdown on illegal immigration and directed federal prosecutors to prioritize certain immigration related offenses.

During a trip to Nogales, Arizona, in April for a tour of the border and a meeting of Customs and Border Protection personnel, he warned of a “new era” of U.S. immigration that would bring felony charges for people who entered the United States illegally multiple times or had gotten married in order to gain legal status.

“For those that continue to seek improper and illegal entry into this country, be forewarned: This is a new era. This is the Trump era,” Sessions said in remarks prepared for delivery in Arizona. “The lawlessness, the abdication of the duty to enforce our immigration laws and the catch and release practices of old are over.”

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Saturday, 8/12/17, was Donald Trump's worst day as president. And Monday, 8/14/17, didn't help.

Donald Trump is at the lowest approval rate of any US President...

No United States President in history has ever had something like this happen. No matter how money-grubbing, no matter how fanatical about war, no matter how big a liar and cheat, no president has ever sunk so low with the entire country.

Saying that it was his "worst day as president" isn't just an opinion; according to the polls, #notmypresident Trump has reached the lowest approval rating of any US president in the first six months of his stay in the White House. It took Richard Nixon his entire presidency, right through #Watergate, up until just before his resignation to reach the numbers that Trump has now.

(CNN)Donald Trump's presidency has been marked by low moments. The false assertions regarding the size of his inauguration crowd. The testy phone calls with longtime allies. The false claim that Barack Obama wire-tapped Trump Tower during the 2016 campaign. The botched rollout of the so-called "travel ban." Tweets attacking everyone from his attorney general to Mika Brzezinksi.

But, even amid all of that chaos and controversy, what Trump said -- and didn't say -- on Saturday in the wake of the violent protests by white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia, marks the nadir of his presidency to date.

A reminder of what Trump said:

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides. On many sides. It's been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. This has been going on for a long, long time."

"On many sides."

With those three words, Trump effectively abdicated one of the essential jobs of a president: To lead us to the high(er) ground, to our better angels, to progress.

He tried to clean up the mess he caused on Saturday with another statement on Monday just before 1 p.m. ET. Trump began touting the success of his policies on the economy before turning to Charlottesville and saying what he should have said two days ago. "Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, Neo-Nazis, & White Supremacists," Trump said.

It was a necessary course correction by the President. Here's the problem: It came two days too late.

In painging {sic} this as a "both sides do it" situation in his initial reaction -- it wasn't and isn't -- Trump effectively threw his hands up in the face of a moment of morality. Simply put: There is a right and a wrong answer when it comes to dealing with bigots.

The right answer is to condemn them and their belief system loudly and completely, leaving no room for ambiguity. The wrong answer is to not name them, to cast the events in Charlottesville as an example of both-sides-do-it-ism and make your statement vague enough that it can be interpreted in any way shape or form as condoning this sort of behavior.

Trump did all three of those bad things. And, to make matter worse, this most outspoken of presidents on, well, everything, went silent regarding Charlottesville -- saying nothing between his statement in the mid-afternoon on Saturday until right now. He did take to Twitter Monday morning to lash out at Kenneth Frazier, the African-American CEO of Merck after Frazier announced he would quit Trump's manufacturing council after Trump did not condemn racism after the Charlottesville violence.

On Sunday, a White House spokesman -- speaking on background, meaning there was no name attached to the quote, said this:

"The president said very strongly in his statement yesterday that he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry and hatred, and of course that includes white supremacists, KKK, neo-Nazi, and all extremists groups. He called for national unity and bringing all Americans together."

First of all, why was this quote not on the record? Is there anything in it that is even the least bit controversial or debatable? Second, you can't say "of course that includes white supremacists, KKK, neo-Nazi, and all extremists group." Because if the president doesn't say those names -- and chooses to use the phrase "on many sides" -- then there is a not-tiny chance that people misunderstand what he was trying to actually say. Third, why isn't the President of the United States saying this? Why does this sentiment have to be expressed through a spokesman?

As I noted in a piece on Saturday, there are moments in every presidency in which the President needs to act like we expect our leaders to act. To stand up to hatred and intolerance -- whether in the form of white supremacists or ISIS militants -- and say: Enough! This is not who we are or who we are going to be. These views are abhorrent and have no place in civil society. I will work for the remainder of my presidency to combat those who turn us against each other.

Trump didn't do that. Didn't say those words. And, the words he did say were ones larded with just the sort of ambiguity that he has long dabbled in but which threatens to tear the social fabric even further. You can't leave any room for interpretation in a statement on a white supremacist rally that left 1 person dead and dozens injured. This was an act of hate. We condemn hate and those who act on it. The end.

Trump's words on Monday matter -- in that we need the President to be on the record saying that the hate that we all witnessed on Saturday is not us, is not what we aspire to be as a society.

But, it is inexcusable for a president to miss the mark so badly on Saturday and then to compound the problem over the next 36 hours -- seemingly not understanding that the stakes here are much higher than who wins or who loses in a campaign.

Saturday was the worst day for the Trump presidency. And a moment of low ebb for the country too.

Impeachment Anyone?

Each time his name is in the headlines, especially if the word 'tweets' is in the headline as well, #notmypresident Trump gets farther and farther from the known world of reality, and edges closer and closer to taking up permanent residence in the unknown world  where people  no more qualified to run the country than Garfield the cat are being elected and allowed to turn their nose up at all the conventions and honored traditions this country has been governed by for literally hundreds of years. Suddenly America isn't the shining example of democracy it's always been, the guiding light for all other countries, the gold standard by which others judged themselves; now it's just a  joke.  Now everyone all over the world gets up in the morning and can't wait to see what Twitter's got for them today, what inane drivel  the so-called Commander-in-Chief of the United States is spewing all over social media.  Even if he hasn't posted anything himself, the gifs and  memes that are being spread around the Internet are more than enough to send the leaders of foreign powers into paroxysms of laughter. It's sad to be such a  laughingstock when we were once the leader of the free world....

Trump retweets Fox News story containing classified info

WASHINGTON (CNN) – President Donald Trump’s retweet of a Fox News story claiming US satellites detected North Korea moving anti-ship cruise missiles to a patrol boat is raising eyebrows on Tuesday after US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley indicated that the information in the report is classified and was leaked.

“I can’t talk about anything that’s classified and if that’s in the newspaper that’s a shame,” Haley said Tuesday on “Fox and Friends” when asked about the story that cites two anonymous sources.

Pushed on whether the information was leaked, Haley said “it’s one of those things I don’t know what’s going on. I will tell you it’s incredibly dangerous when things get out into the press like that.”

But just a few hours before Haley’s appearance on Fox, Trump retweeted a post from the Fox News morning show promoting the story said to contain classified information.

CNN has not independently verified the Fox News report and the White House has not responded to a request for comment.

“It is alarming the casualness with which President Trump shares classifieds information,” Democratic Rep. Ted Lieu of California told CNN’s Poppy Harlow Tuesday. “Just because something is in the press doesn’t make that information no longer classified, so the President should not be tweeting classified information just because he as the President.”

Will Fischer, an Iraq War veteran and director of government relations for VoteVets, was also critical of the retweet and questioned what role — or lack thereof — new chief of staff John Kelly had in the process.

“It is absolutely terrifying to see that information that Ambassador Haley said was ‘dangerous’ to print was retweeted by Donald Trump,” Fischer said in a statement. “The question for everyone to ask is: What did General Kelly say? If he told Donald Trump to retweet this, there’s a real problem. If he told Trump not to, and Trump ignored him, that’s a big problem. If Donald Trump is refusing to consult with his chief of staff on any of this, that’s a huge problem, especially given General Kelly’s military background.”

Trump’s motive for retweeting the Fox News story remains unclear but the decision to promote a report that — according to the US ambassador to the United Nations — contains classified information leaked to the press by anonymous sources comes just days after the President praised Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ plan to combat that very practice in the name of national security. 

“After many years of LEAKS going on in Washington, it is great to see the A.G. taking action!” Trump tweeted. “For National Security, the tougher the better!” Trump tweeted over the weekend.

Tuesday’s retweet also coincided with the release of a series of new polls that not only call Trump’s Twitter habits into question but also reveal major concerns around the President’s trustworthiness and ability to effectively manage the standoff with North Korea.

According to a new CBS News poll only a third of those surveyed having confidence in Trump’s ability to handle the situation with North Korea.

A new CNN poll shows that a majority (52%) of Americans say Trump’s tweets are not an effective way for him to share his views on important issues, and 72% say they do not send the right message to other world leaders.

Further, 62% overall say that Trump’s statements and actions since taking office have made them less confident in his ability to be president.

In May, Trump was criticized after The Washington Post reported that he shared highly classified information with the Russian foreign minister and Russian ambassador to the US in a White House meeting.

Despite statements from top administration officials that called the report “false,” two former officials knowledgeable of the situation confirmed to CNN at the time that the main points of the Post story were accurate.

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Did He Really Say That In Public??

I wasn't going to say anything about this; I was going to just let it slide, but the more I thought about it, the bigger the knot in my stomach grew.

Supposedly,  #hesnotmypresident Donald Trump is all about patriotism and loyalty to America and good old Christian values. I've heard it said that one of the big reasons a lot of white lower and lower middle class  Bible-thumpers voted for him was because they thought he would bring America back to what they consider the good old days, when beating up 'nigras' was thought of as entertainment just like dog and cock fighting.  The days when anyone who thought we shouldn't have been in Vietnam  was subject to being lynched for committing treason,  when boys didn't let their hair grow below their collars,  and the very thought of having gays and transgenders serving openly in the US Military was enough to make "Good Old General Hardass" toss his cookies and swoon.

Well, I don't see any of that happening anytime soon (even though he did make an effort by "taking   back" allowing transgenders to serve openly) so evidently he wasn't as gung ho about that platform as he was about what I believe to be his goal, erasing every single thing that Obama put into place. IMO, he just wants to wipe the Obama Administration off the books, (or perhaps put an asterisk beside it? LOL) and now he's trying again to ridicule the Obama family.

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Report: Trump called White House a 'dump' to NJ golf club

Tuesday, August 01, 2017 09:15 PM

WASHINGTON --

President Donald Trump has told members of his New Jersey golf club that he spends so much time away from Washington because the White House is a "real dump."

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the account, which appeared in a lengthy article posted on the website golf.com. The story on Trump's complicated love for golf also appears in Sports Illustrated magazine.

The story recounts a scene in which Trump was chatting with some club members. Trump told the members he makes such frequent appearances at the property in Bedminster, New Jersey, because: "That White House is a real dump."

Trump has spent nearly every weekend of his presidency visiting various properties he owns and leases, including Bedminster.

Okay, I can hear the catcalls and the derision just as loudly as if you were sitting here next to me at the computer.  I know, it's a stretch, but we're talking about a man here who has been in the business of making money by any means necessary for longer than some of us are old! Every con that there is I'm sure he's done, and that includes long-term cons that require more patience than a black widow waiting for her latest husband to die! None of the big guns that Trump has fired have panned out (like the birther issue, the wiretapping issue, etc.) so why not pull out the stops and just pile up all the stuff they can find? Knowing that everything he says gets reported to somebody in journalism, what other reason could he have to make that statement in public? IMO, to ridicule #hesstillmyPresident Barack Obama. I mean the Obama family lived in that house for 8 years and you didn't hear any complaints about it, now he comes in and says it's a dump; and when someone says "Well the Obamas never said anything like that and they were there for 8 years.... "Of course it wouldn't be a dump to the Obamas, they don't know any better, you know how those people are." That by itself is no big deal, but if you stack up everything that he can dig/makeup well.....
Wonder what the next salvo will be?

Supreme Court allows parts of travel ban to take effect

And So It Begins.....

By Ariane de Vogue, CNN Supreme Court Reporter

Washington (CNN)The Supreme Court Monday allowed parts of President Donald Trump's travel ban to go into effect and will hear oral arguments on the case this fall.

The court is allowing the ban to go into effect for foreign nationals who lack any "bona fide relationship with any person or entity in the United States." The court, in an unsigned opinion, left the travel ban against citizens of six majority-Muslim on hold as applied to non-citizens with relationships with persons or entities in the United States, which includes most of the plaintiffs in both cases.

Examples of formal relationships include students accepted to US universities and an employee who has accepted a job with a company in the US, the court said.

This is the first time the high court has weighed in on the travel ban, and a partial victory for the Trump administration, which has been fighting lower court rulings blocking the ban from taking effect. Justices did not address Trump's tweets which have caused legal problems for his administration previously.

The ban, which bars people from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen from entering the US for 90 days -- outside of the "bona fide" relationship exception -- could take effect in as little as 72 hours.

Trump called the decision "a clear victory for our national security."

"As President, I cannot allow people into our country who want to do us harm," he added in a statement. "I want people who can love the United States and all of its citizens, and who will be hardworking and productive."

What's next?

How officials implement the ban could cause chaos at airports, similar to what happened when Trump's first travel ban executive order was written in January (it was later blocked).

"That's going to be an extreme headache. Think about how the people at the border, at airports are going to make that decision," said Page Pate, CNN legal analyst. "Who is going to make this decision? If we leave it to the folks on the front line, that's just going to lead to more litigation."

Trump signed a memorandum earlier this month which states that administration officials shall begin implementation of the parts of the order that are allowed to go forward 72 hours after the court rules.

The Department of Homeland Security said in a statement it will discuss the court's action with the Justice and State departments and said it would implement the ban "professionally, with clear and sufficient public notice, particularly to potentially affected travelers, and in coordination with partners in the travel industry."

As for refugees, the court held that a person seeking refuge in the US can claim "concrete hardship" -- but in the end, if they "lack any such connection to the United States ... the balance tips in favor of the government's compelling need to provide for the Nation's security."

Sidesteps Trump's tweets

Trump himself has repeatedly criticized judges who sided against the travel ban and suggested the judicial system is against him and harming national security interests.

"The courts are slow and political!" Trump wrote in one of several tweets criticizing rulings from various federal judges this year.

"That's right, we need a TRAVEL BAN for certain DANGEROUS countries, not some politically correct term that won't help us protect our people," Trump tweeted earlier this month.

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This is Trump's second attempt to install a travel ban.

The first executive order was issued one week into his term, and sought to bar people from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen from entering the US for 90 days and all refugees for 120 days.

After it was blocked by the courts, Trump tried again in March with a revised version that didn't include Iraq and was meant to clarify problems of the first order that created uncertainty about the rights of dual citizens and holders of US visas. It had been blocked by courts on both constitutional and statutory grounds.

Trump has called his second executive order "watered down," and "politically correct."

Trump's awkward trip to the Supreme Court

But while lower courts used Trump's own words against the White House as a justification to stop the ban from taking effect, the high court did not look at that language.

Candidate Trump issued a statement calling for the "total and complete shutdown" of Muslims entering the United States until the government could "figure out what is going on," in response to a deadly mass shooting in San Bernardino, California, by ISIS sympathizers in December 2015.

"The 16 pages did not include any citations to President Trump's campaign rhetoric," said CNN senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin. "And the Supreme Court seems reluctant to get into the business of that, which is why I always thought the President had the best chance of winning at the Supreme Court."

"This is about the executive order itself. It is not about the campaign or anything else," Toobin added.

Conservative trio would have allowed full ban

Justice Clarence Thomas dissented with Justice Samuel Alito and newly-appointed Justice Neil Gorsuch, saying the court didn't go far enough.

Thomas said he would have stayed the injunctions "in full," adding the government is "likely to succeed on the merits."

Thomas expressed concern with the "court's remedy" and said he fears it will "prove unworkable."

"Today's compromise will burden executive officials with the task of deciding -- on peril of contempt -- whether individuals from the six affected nations who wish to enter the United States have a sufficient connection to a person or entity in this country," he said.

Anthony Kennedy retirement watch at a fever pitch

Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Anthony Kennedy -- who has been considering retirement -- both joined the majority opinion that agreed to keep parts of the ban on hold until oral arguments this fall.

That fact is telling, said Steve Vladeck, CNN legal analyst and professor at the University of Texas School of Law
"The fact that neither agreed with the dissenters to put the full Executive Order into effect may be an important signal for how they'd be likely to rule on the merits -- and a bad sign for the Trump administration at least with respect to no -- citizens with connections to the United States," Vladeck said.

Toobin also suggested how the court handled the case means Kennedy will stick around.

"The fact that Kennedy didn't retire today probably means he won't retire this term," Toobin said. "However, Sandra Day O'Connor did retire two days after the term ended."

This story has been updated.

CNN's Daniella Diaz, Laura Jarrett and Grace Hauck contributed to this report.

This Has Got To Be a Dream!!

Or Perhaps It's "Fake News"??

I should have been in bed HOURS ago, but when I stumbled across this headline, I just had to see what it was about... Now I know why I couldn't stand him all these years, not on talk shows, not on game shows, and not on the radio. He might have looked like a human on the surface, but underneath was a smarmy, oily, orange is his favorite color, Trumper. I'm going to be watching him though; I want to see just what Steve Harvey means by "working with HUD", and "going to get some housing for some underprivileged people".  In my opinion, in exchange for him appearing with #notmypresident Donald Trump just for appearances (just like the black ministers) Steve Harvey is going to get some perks, like getting housing for distant members of his family. <sigh> What a shame...

Steve Harvey Says Donald Trump Is Keeping His Promises

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Steve Harvey is still drinking Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Largo Kool-Aid and says Trump is keeping his promises about affordable housing.

“Well, I mean as far as doing he promised me to do, he’s doing it. I’m working with HUD. I’m going to get some housing for underprivileged people,” Harvey said when TMZ caught up with him.

When the TMZ cameraman asked if he’s happy with Trump’s work, Harvey laughed.

“I didn’t say that. All I said was he’s keeping his word to what he said he would so,” Harvey replied.

So, let me get this straight. A comedian-actor-game show host is working with the Department of Housing and Urban Development to get housing. And a former surgeon with no housing background is working at HUD.

Welcome to Trump’s America.

By Yesha Callahan @yeshacallahan

Senior Editor. I am not one of your little school friends.

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